(2018) I think art can be whatever you feel it to be, whether having a deep social purpose or as light entertainment, or for pushing challenging frontiers and communing with a certain group. Anyway some of my favorite artists often work(ed) between categories.. between more direct expression and more “experimental” or abstract or unusual things that satisfied their own needs and were appreciated by particular people. I think Beethoven did that, also Stravinsky, for instance. Over the years. And they figured out how to bridge these things sometimes, so the popular stuff was still so ingenious and full of sophistication and surprise on some level, and depth rather than clichés.